In addition to growing vegetables, Bert also had a 'hobby greenhouse' in which he fanatically collected cacti, succulents and other various pot plants. At the weekends, he was always here, and certainly Carla too, to analyze and optimize the entire growth process of all plants. In vegetable cultivation, he could only distinguish himself in the number of kilograms of tomatoes and red peppers, which he did well! But in order to distinguish itself in quality and therefore building brand awareness as a company became increasingly important to him.

When an event occurred, he was given the choice to make from his passion his work. Together with Carla, he founded the anthurium pot plant company 'Karma Plants' at an old greenhouse in Etten-Leur.